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"Gov, Romney seems to have a tendency to Fire before he aims." - President Obama, after Willard Romney once again showed why there are serious questions about whether Romney is really qualified to be The Commander-In-Chief as it pertains to Foreign Affairs. Remember his Olympics/European tour fiasco? Not that there isn't a severe lack of enthusiasm when it comes to other Presidential responsibility areas, however he has failed so miserably in the Foreign Affairs area, it overshadows, by a long shot, his short-comings in all those other questionable areas.

The latest questions came after Romney showed up in a hastily staged Press Conference just minutes after the, now well known Terrorists Attack on the American Embassy in Libya which resulted in the death of four American Embassy employees, including the American Ambassador. The press conference was called, not to try to unite all Americans in a time of great tragedy but was obviously politically motivated. Romney, probably feeling rather desperate to try to undermine Obama's recent resurgence bump in political polls Obama has enjoyed since the DNC Convention, wrongly thought he had another chance to echo the "America doesn't apologize" theme he and Ryan bring up every time they get a chance. This time however, he was completely disconnected from the reality of the situation, lacking the facts, as seems to be his M.O, he ran out of the bunkhouse, jumped on his horse and rode off in all different directions.

What prompted this latest Foreign Policy stumble? An Embassy press release condemning a U-Tube video vilifying the Muslim Religion, which Romney tagged to the Obama Administration as being apologetic to the "Enemy". However we now know that the embassy press release that so raised the ire of the Romney campaign was published more than 3 ½ hours before the protests began and a full 5 ½ hours before the protestors first breached the wall of the embassy compound. As a result, it was not possible that the statement was issued in response to the embassy’ wall being being breached by the mob yet, that is exactly what Romney claimed, saying the Obama Administration was apologizing to the terrorists, somehow justifying their reason for the "Breach", Amazingly inaccurate but not UN-expected.

Consider the Romney Resume on Foreign Policy experience
submitted by the Romney Campaign:
1. As a Mormon missionary he visited abroad.
2. Later on as a Business Executive at Bain Capital, he worked with Countries such as China and India,
some of the countries Bain set up to absorb those jobs lost to U.S manufacturing companies Bain
shut down.
3. And the best one of all, heading up the World Olympics..... in UTAH!!

Maybe they could have added all the countries he visited to set up Off-Shore banking accounts for him and his wife? Or maybe the possibility that he can see Russia from the top of his wife's garage car elevator where she parks her fleet of Cadillacs?


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TheSovereign commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 00:12 AM

This is what happens when you run a campaign on perceptions rather than substance.

I can see the sharks are circling now....

Bull153 commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 01:25 AM

@ LarryBaca...

Mr. Obama has had almost four years to develop and perfect his foreign policy. He is a good one to criticize Mr. Romney when Mr. Obama has such an abysmal record of failure in the Middle East.

While Israel is poised to take drastic action against the Iranian nuclear threat, Mr. Obama misses half his security briefings and refused to meet with the Israeli Prime Minister. Mr. Obama has announced the removal of US Forces in Afghanistan and provided a timetable so that the Taliban know how long they need to wait until they can once more take over. His administration has continued to spend more and more money on a corrupt local government with no accountability. While eager to help with military assistance in the Libyan civil crisis, Mr. Obama has done little to confront the genocide in Syria. Pakistan, which housed Osama Bin Laden, continues to receive military assistance funding while closing our supply lines to Afghanistan whenever they choose.

My opinions... but I'm not the only one who is less than enamored with our current resident-in-chief at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

"In accepting his party’s renomination a week ago, President Obama called himself a “tested and proven” leader in a dangerous world of threats from abroad, especially from the terrorist-spawning Middle East. But a week later, with Muslim protests flaring at U.S. diplomatic posts across the Middle East and with four Americans killed in Libya, the gentler foreign policy pillar upon which Mr. Obama supports his re-election bid is in danger of toppling."

“What this is all about is American weakness and the president’s inability to lead,” Sen. John McCain said on NBC’s “Today” show."

“You’ve had, for the first time since 1979, a U.S. ambassador killed, and it demands … much more serious attention, I think, from the president,” Isobel Coleman, a Middle East analyst at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, told reporters." - Dave Boyer

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2...

“Gov. Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later,” President Obama said in a CBS interview last night, criticizing Romney’s reaction to the embassy attack in Cairo."

"Obama’s remarks, however, echo frequent criticisms made by President Jimmy Carter of Ronald Reagan, then his opponent for the presidency. A world of good guys and bad guys, where some politicians shoot first and ask questions later, Carter said." - Charlie Spiering

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/o...

It is beginning to look more like Carter/Reagan: part deux

-Ron

rozemist commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 08:30 AM
LarryBaca commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 16:52 PM

Bull, that's right, all you claimed is only your opinion, nothing is based on facts.

TheSovereign commented on Friday, Sep 14, 2012 at 21:55 PM

Facts are such stupid little things, they get in the way of an evil liberty killing narrative like that from the Conservatives. Why use facts when uneducated opinion sounds so much more fearful.

rozemist commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 22:40 PM
Bull153 commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 23:36 PM

@ LarryBaca...

Actually, my post is just as factual as your blog.

FACT: President Obama misses half his daily security briefings - Marc Thiessen/Washington Post

"President Obama is touting his foreign policy experience... It turns out that more than half the time, the commander in chief does not attend his daily intelligence meeting."

"During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion...

FACT: Israel is poised to take drastic action against the Iranian nuclear threat - Daniel Estrin/Associated Press

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have repeatedly hinted that if the United States does not attack (Iran), Israel will. He said that "those in the international community who refuse to put red lines before Iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before Israel.""

http://abcnews.go.com/International/w...

FACT: President Obama refused to meet with Israel's Prime Minister - Matt Spetalnick and Allyn Fisher-Ilan/Reuters

"In a highly unusual rebuff to a close ally, the White House said on Tuesday that President Barack Obama would not meet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a U.S. visit later this month, as tensions escalated over how to deal with Iran's nuclear program."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09...

FACT: Mr. Obama has announced the removal of US Forces in Afghanistan and provided a timetable - ABC News June 22, 2011 speech transcript

"...starting next month, we will be able to remove 10,000 of our troops from Afghanistan by the end of this year, and we will bring home a total of 33,000 troops by next summer, fully recovering the surge... ...our troops will continue coming home at a steady pace as Afghan Security forces move into the lead. Our mission will change from combat to support. By 2014, this process of transition will be complete, and the Afghan people will be responsible for their own security."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transc...
CONTINUED...

Bull153 commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 23:39 PM

...CONTINUED
FACT: His administration has continued to spend more and more money on a corrupt local government with no accountability - Matthew P. Hoh, Director/Afghanistan Study Group

"The U.S. seems to be making a feeble attempt — very feeble; only in Afghanistan could $18 billion over four years be considered a cut — to stem the massive flow of aid dollars to Afghanistan. But what’s missing is an attempt to improve accountability in Afghanistan aid. At the Tokyo conference donors paid lip service to accountability by making up to 20 percent of the $16 billion contingent on Afghanistan’s efforts to fight corruption and improve accountability."

http://www.afghanistanstudygroup.org/...

FACT: Mr. Obama has done little to confront the genocide in Syria - Guy Taylor/Washington Times

"If killing Osama bin Laden, untangling U.S. forces from Iraq and fighting a bare-knuckle drone war against al Qaeda are the Obama administration’s foreign policy triumphs, its biggest stumble may be its failure to produce an international solution to what has become an all-out civil war in Syria."

"Many foreign policy analysts agree that the Obama administration has done little either to effectively plan for or to prevent the violent sectarian bloodbath likely to follow if, as they predict, the power base around Syrian President Bashar Assad begins to crumble."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2... s-romney-on-syria-policy/#ixzz26WhY3ks4

FACT: Pakistan, which housed Osama Bin Laden, continues to receive military assistance funding while closing our supply lines to Afghanistan whenever they choose - TheNews (Pakistan)

"...the US House of Representatives has approved an amendment which would cut US aid to Pakistan by half... According to a report by Politico, (US Representative Ted) Poe had first demanded a $1.3 billion cut from Pakistan’s military aid ... but later a cut of $650 million was settled upon."

"The unsteady relations between Pakistan and the US were coming back on track when Pakistan reopened the NATO supply routes in return for an apology offered by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton."

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News...

Your opinion is noted as well. Your 'facts' are just as reliable as my facts. You're welcome...

-Ron

Bull153 commented on Sunday, Sep 16, 2012 at 23:40 PM

@ TheSovereign...

My opinion is far from uneducated, I have provided facts to support my post. All you provide are insults. It's OK, the readers will decide for themselves which of us are using 'stupid little things' in their presentations...

-Ron

TheSovereign commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 07:36 AM

No, you need to keep proving it, I am not satisfied yet, after all you are a foxnews watcher, and a Conservative. Its not far.....

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 07:58 AM

Funny how different Bull153's "facts" are when taken with the context they were originally printed in.

On Obama's PDB:

"Vietor did not dispute the numbers, but said the fact that the president, during a time of war, does not attend his daily intelligence meeting on a daily basis is “not particularly interesting or useful.” He says that the president reads his PDB every day, and he disagreed with the suggestion that there is any difference whatsoever between simply reading the briefing book and having an interactive discussion of its contents with top national security and intelligence officials where the president can probe assumptions and ask questions. “I actually don’t agree at all,” Vietor told me in an e-mail, “The president gets the information he needs from the intelligence community each day.”

Odd how the ACTUAL STORY tells something different then the out-of-context bit by Bull153. Also funny how Obama KILLED BIN-LADEN without these PDB face-to-face meetings and Bush IGNORED the meeting titled Bin-Laden determined to attack United States." Personally, I would rather have a President that thinks and reads rather than waits to be told what to do and misses something - as Bush et al obviously did.

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 07:59 AM

As for Israel Bull153, that is NOT A FACT!!! That is the OPINION of many in the international community. Try again to understand the difference between FACTS and OPINIONS Bull153. Take for example the use of the phrase "repeatedly hinted" in your quote ...

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:01 AM

What is your problem with the Afganistan timetable Bull153? How is having a plan to end the longest war in US history a bad thing?

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:05 AM

How is the FACT about spending on "Nation Building" in Afganistan on Obama? Didn't BUsh start that whole deal? Oh, and didn't you JUST CRITICIZE Obama above for setting up a timetable to get out of Afganistan? SO which is it Bull53? Seems your FACTS are maleable to your opinion at the time.

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:07 AM

And Bull153 to conclude, your "opinion" is uneducated. It is just copy-and-pastig words and seemingly not understanding the meanings of the words you post. This might be one of the reasons your posting are always so hypocritical - you just have no idea what you are talking about.

Bull153 commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM

@ TheSovereign...

It isn't important that you are satisfied. It is only important that the readers are satisfied. I provide a valid counterpoint to this post, and all you can do is offer additional comments meant to belittle rather than defend.

I see your minion is hard at work ingratiating himself to you. It's too bad you can offer no reasoned response yourself. It's OK, it's what I expected.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Yeah Bull153, I think the readers can see that your out of context missrepresentations are not "facts" as you claim but just more TeaParty partisan spin.

It's sad that some people think FACTS and OPINIONS are interchangeable.

Also Bull153, you realize when people publish editorials, they are not factual accounts but rather opinionated takes on facts. No wonder you use the term "my facts" so often, you have no idea what the word "facts" means at all.

LarryBaca commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 14:25 PM

Just got back from Carmel...That place is chock full of Liberals...kind of a paradise :-)
Just who are these "readers" Bull thinks are so interested in what he pastes? OK "readers" how many of you wake up every morning, turn on your computers and tune into whatever Bull has pasted???

Friendo commented on Monday, Sep 17, 2012 at 16:18 PM

I wake up every morning turn on my computer and tune in to see if someone has reported himself to the MB authorities for hacking his very own MB password. An instant Classic in the annals of Online Stupidity!!!

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 00:53 AM

You actually wake up every morning and turn on your computer? Wow, you do lead a sheltered life. Do you do this while still in the Bubble or do you ever step out into reality?:-)

Capitalists_Nightmare commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 03:45 AM

There are many many things to criticize Obama on when it comes to foreign policy, I don't think you touched on many of them Bull.

First, tell us about the nuclear threat of Iran. Because it seems everytime that inspectors go into Iran to look at these nuclear plants they find that Iran is not making nukes. So upon what basis is Israel going to strike Iran? Israel already knows we'd back them if they attacked Iran, so why would Obama be all lovey dovey with Israel as they back us into a corner, a corner Obama doesn't want to be put in? What Obama did is totally legit in this sense.

Secondly, the same exact things were said about Iraq, if we put a date on our withdraw the enemy would just wait until we left to take over. Did it happen? But I think at this point in time the Taliban is going to be a force with or without us there. Why anybody wants to be in Afghanistan at this point, I don't know. Why are we in Afghanistan again? It seems like no one there wants us there, even the soldiers we are training are shooting at us now! The Afghanistan government is corrupt as hell, I agree, I don't think many disagree with that fact.

What's happening in Syria isn't a genocide, it's a civil war at this point, and we're on the side of the rebels(even though it appears more and more and coming from foreign countries, Jesus lord, it's like Afghanistan all over again!)

As for Pakistan, we continually drop bombs on their people, many of whom are innocent, I'd be a little ticked too(but what would you like, full scale invasion).

TheSovereign commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 04:12 AM

It's been said to never get involved in another country's civil war because those people are fighting for a personal cause, and you won't be. History proves that correct over and over again. Whether it was Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Bosnia, Iraq, or Afganistan, we have yet to pick a winner, and outside of maybe Vietnam, there is still no peace in those countries.

What you see with Israel and Iran as well as with those in our Congress calling for actions is just Conservative posturing and saber rattling. They act like it makes them look strong, when in actuality the people of these countries have no interest in attacking each other. It's just more of the same old promoting fear of the unknown.

Remember, we need war in order to keep the industrial military machine pumping out their product which keeps people employed. GE, Haliburton and General Dynamics' bottom line depends on it.

rozemist commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 07:49 AM
Friendo commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 13:32 PM

Sov, Are you saying that Iran has no interest in attacking Israel? Iran's actions are intended to promote fear and nothing else?

TheSovereign commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 13:45 PM

Good article Roze. They did play with symantics, but the did point out who is not paying Federal Taxes.

Romney stated that 47% of the "people" pay no Federal tax, and the author switched it to households. One needs to take into account that the largest segment of that 47% is children and seniors. Is Romney and the Conservatives playing with numbers to make a hollow argument? It looks that way, but when you listen to their rhetoric, one does see where they feel we don't need child labor laws, and seniors should receive vouchers, so it causes one to read between the lines.

It is odd that a man who trys as hard as he does to avoid paying his fair share of taxes would be accusing the "have nots" of doing the same. I have made this point before, our Congress spends the majority of their time working on laws that benefit corporations and the wealthy, so it should be that group who pays for Congess' services rendered. They surely don't expect the average Americans to pick up the tab for their benefit, or do they?

rozemist commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 15:31 PM

Taking aside and knowing full well that Mr Romney did not do his homework on this one (again),and should have.Did he believe this speech would never see the light of day,and Just how easy is it to fact check what these Politicians like to put out there,do they think that people are not going to look this stuff up to find out ,and I'm speaking about all of them out there from all sides .
Sov you brought up another very important issue and that is this is hypocritical of him to even go there when he is very experienced in the art of avoiding taxes,paying less then his share,looking for every loophole he can find,which OK I can give him that,they all do that don't they, but to then go accusing 47 percent of the electorate as government moochers,when what it really comes down to is most of these people pay a higher tax rate then Mr Romney anyways .
There's going to always be someone out there with a video camera ,when are these Politicians going to get this.
These 47% I'm sure will remember this come election day.
rozemist

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 15:41 PM

Let's hope they remember...

rozemist commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 16:45 PM

Your right Larry I should have said "let's hope they remember" instead of "I'm sure they'll remember"
Nothing is for certain,and memories fade quickly,and people forgive,you know.

Sincerely,rozemist

TheSovereign commented on Tuesday, Sep 18, 2012 at 16:56 PM

I am reading more and more on how the Romney campaign is in disarray, especially with his past organizational experience with the Olympics should have helped him do a better job. The more this goes on the more it is starting to resemble the McCain campaign with infighting and mis-messenging.

The debates are looking to be his last real opportunity to gain any traction, and with his stance already made with the Republican debates, he doesn't have a lot of room to present a different look. More than likely he will come out attacking instead of creating a vision.

Here is an interesting article on how he cant gain any traction: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/201...

There is something to be said about running a positive campaign.

LarryBaca commented on Wednesday, Sep 19, 2012 at 00:08 AM

Interesting Sov, thks...

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:05 AM

@ LarryBaca...

Where do you get that I think readers are so interested in what I paste? If they are interested, they'll read the posts and if they have an opinion they'll comment. I'm not the only one here posting comments. I paste relevant facts to support my position, you only belittle and demean. It would be remarkably refreshing if you would post an original thought and counterpoint instead of your 'less than interesting' comments.

-Ron

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:07 AM

@ Capitalists_Nightmare...

It was not my intention to provide a complete and total documentation of Mr. Obama's foreign policy failures. I'm quite sure there are others.

There is a credible threat from Iran once they develop nuclear weapons. Inspectors are NOT saying Iran is not developing nuclear weapons, they are saying they haven't found any evidence that Iran is. It is hard to find evidence when the inspectors are not allowed full and complete access to all the facilities. Israel has arguably one of the world's best intelligence services, the Mossad, and undoubtedly sufficient evidence to support an air strike. Israel has already demonstrated it is capable of striking her enemy's nuclear threats with their 1981 Osirak. Iraq attack. That was unilateral and widely condemned. Israel has learned from that and her abstaining from direct action during the first Gulf War even as SCUD missiles were striking Tel Aviv. Israel cannot be assured of US support from the current administration, an administration that is more concerned with fundraising and campaigning than international security. Ignoring the Iranian threat just emboldens them to keep pushing and adds more fuel to the fires of US international weakness.

Iraq is in a quagmire since US Forces withdrew. Every day we see more and more terror bombings and unrest. There has been a dramatic increase in these attacks since we left. The same will happen in Afghanistan and more US and NATO troops will die because of it. Unlike Desert Storm, where we kicked Saddam Hussain out of Kuwait, then withdrew; we tried to nation build in Afghanistan. The purpose was to eliminate Taliban and Al Quida breeding and training grounds. We should have stuck to that. Using Special Ops forces backed by air power, these facilities could have been destroyed and terrorists killed/captured. Once that occurred, we should have left. Intelligence sources and technology could have kept these areas under surveillance, and if new camps were created, they could have been taken out as needed. Putting boots on the ground to nation build was wrong.

Syria is a civil war fueled not only by a desire for a regime change, but genocide as well. Just like Libya, an international solution should be found with US military assisting, but not taking the brunt of the operation. No fly zones and humanitarian assistance, not boots on the ground. Mr. Obama has not shown leadership here either.

Bombs were dropped on Pakistanis because Pakistan keeps trying to play both sides and mistakes get made. In war, people die. Sometimes the wrong people die. Pakistan is hardly a friend to the US, they just want our financial aid. As in Afghanistan, the answer lies in special operations and each country taking responsibility, not just depending on the USA.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 at 08:23 AM

Wow, there is so much double talk in Bull153's post above my head is spinning!!

"There is a credible threat from Iran once they develop nuclear weapons. Inspectors are NOT saying Iran is not developing nuclear weapons, they are saying they haven't found any evidence that Iran is."

So what you are saying is that you agree and Iran is NOT a treat right now, but, maybe the could be in the future possibly....

"Iraq is in a quagmire since US Forces withdrew. Every day we see more and more terror bombings and unrest. " When did anyone say it would just be 100% peaceful right away Bull153? Did you just make that up yourself and then get angry when Obama administration did not meet your imaginary expectations? Also, I think you got Iraq and Afganistan confused more then once in your rant.

"Putting boots on the ground to nation build was wrong." Who put the boots there Bull153???? Was it Obama or Bush???

" Pakistan is hardly a friend to the US" Clearly, Bull153 likes to use prejudice and his "gut" rather than facts. Pakistan has been a welcomed ally in the Middle East. Bull153 prejudice might say one thing, but, facts tell another.

Sorry Bull153. Post again once you learn the difference between your imagination and facts.

44Magnum commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 02:41 AM

crimeriddendump;

You might find your disagreement with Bull153's post has more credibility if you presented a better counterpoint of your own.

Iran is indeed a threat. Consider that your neighbor has told you many times that he hates your guts. He tells you he is going to kill you. You see that he is a gardener and has quantities of fertilizer. He drives a diesel powered truck. He has a computer. He says once he figures out a way to create and detonate a bomb you are dead. Your logic says he is not a threat since he can't blow up a bomb that he has all the parts for. Do you ignore him? Do you take steps to protect yourself? Is he a threat? Just like your fictitious neighbor, Iran is a threat.

One might also consider that threats come in varying degrees. If I threaten to beat you up and I am in New York, that is a very weak threat, but nonetheless a threat. If I stand in front of you with a loaded gun and say I am going to blow your head off, that is a much more serious and imminent threat.

One can certainly make a logical argument that Iran is in fact a threat.

Cheers,
Randy

44Magnum commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 02:41 AM

crimeriddendump;

Whoever put the boots on the ground to nation build is not the issue. The issue is announcing the timetable for pulling those boots out.

Many people feel that the US had no business trying to make Afghanistan a democracy. Operations should have been limited to killing terrorists and destroying camps, nothing else. Since the decision was made to keep troops in country, then the decision when and how to remove the troops should be left to the Commander in Chief and the commanders on the ground. Once, made, it should be done and like any operation, the details NOT posted to every news media outlet in the world.

Those of us who have been put at risk in military operations know the cost of political expediency rather than operational common sense.

Cheers,
Randy

44Magnum commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 02:42 AM

crimeriddendump;

I support Bull153's contention that Pakistan is hardly friendly to the USA. It wasn't always that way.

Pakistan was a member of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization from its beginning to 1979, when SEATO was dissolved. Pakistan's aggression toward India and development of nuclear weapons resulted in worsening relationships and embargos led by Jimmy Carter and the US. Relations softened under the Reagan administration and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The US needed Pakistan as a base to support the anti-Soviet fighters in Afghanistan. After the Soviets left, relations soured again and embargos were tightened during the 1990's.

Post 9/11, the US needed Pakistan once again in the war on terrorism. Additional financial aid was provided to allow NATO supplies through Pakistan. In order to foster Pakistani cooperation, President Bush designated Pakistan a major non-NATO ally in 2004. Today the roller coaster relationship continues with President Obama pledging support for Pakistan in 2009 "..we are committed to a partnership with Pakistan that is built on a foundation of mutual interests, mutual respect and mutual trust" and conducting clandestine combat operations on Pakistani soil in 2011.

It isn't prejudice, it is factual. Pakistan has NOT always been a "welcome ally".

Cheers,
Randy

LarryBaca commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 19:18 PM

Did anyone read Frank Aquila's spin on this subject? I have no idea why he would want to go there, I assume it is to draw some fire from Romney's latest screw up, now infamously known as the 47% remark. Guess what Frank, making up stuff isn't gonna work. Latest polls show Obama leading Willard by 24 points in Ca. Same as when Obama beat John McCain.

Bull153 commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 19:51 PM

@ LarryBaca;

First, I didn't read Frank Aquila's comments. I'm not a fan of his and I put him in the same category as crimeriddendump.

Second, at least Mitt Romney owns up to his comment, admitting it was "inelegant' and was not what he meant. I happen to agree with him that 47% of Americans have made up their minds to support and vote for Mr. Obama. In my opinion it is pointless to court them and try and have them change their mind. In our present "government handout" society, these 47% of Americans wouldn't vote for Mr. Romney in any case. So it makes sense to concentrate on making a case with the other 53% of the populace that either supports him or is undecided.

Politics are ugly, and people will drag out a 14 year old clip of Mr. Obama supporting distribution of wealth or a hidden camera video of Mr. Romney making an unclear comment about 47% of the population to try and support their side. It is just business as usual.

Finally, I already have commented on polls. Since the end of the Reagan presidency, California has gone liberal and Democratic. So there is nothing new in that Mr. Obama leads Mr. Romney by a wide margin here. What will be telling is what the polls have to say nationwide and in battleground states after the debates. California will not decide our next president, it will be up to those in other battleground states to determine the outcome. That is why I advocate election reform and the elimination of the electoral college. It is an antiquated system rendered useless in our modern society.

-Ron

KarenPearsall commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 22:55 PM

Hello Bull153, The fact is, Romney did not ONLY say that "47% of Americans have made up their mind to support and vote for Mr. Obama", he also asserted that this 47% paid no taxes and saw themselves as "victims" who think that they are "entitled" to government assistance. This was not only "inelegant", it was flat out wrong. This percentage includes not only welfare or food stamp recipients, but also seniors on medicare, as well as those on social security, disabled veterans (I would think that, with your strong military background, you would agree with me that these men and women are "entitled" to every bit of government assistance needed and are certainly deserving since they were wounded while serving our country) and those who pay no federal income taxes because of legal deductions or loopholes in the system. Romney wrote off the ENTIRE 47% as favoring Obama, when this number also includes REPUBLICANS who most likely will vote for Romney. Talk about a wrong-headed (and wrong-hearted) generalization! If you listen to the tape several times, as I did, Romney's comments are not in the least bit "unclear" as you suggest. He was speaking before a wealthy audience during a private fundraiser ($50,000 a head) and possibly tailored his remarks to that particular audience, telling them what they were primed to hear and accept. You are right that politics is an ugly business and like you, I do not put much faith in polls which are only snapshots of a particular moment and can easily change from one week to the next as current events play out. Sincerely, Karen

KarenPearsall commented on Friday, Sep 21, 2012 at 23:39 PM

Hello LarryBaca, I did read Aquila's latest piece of misinformed propaganda, which was disguised as a "Letter to the Editor". The reason I am so harsh here is not because he doesn't have the right to express his opinion, (he obviously does), but that he spreads rumor and unsubstantiated claims as undisputed fact and then bases his follow-up assertions on unproven allegations. He leads with a British newspaper's claim that the U.S. government had a 2 day advance warning of possible attacks in Libya but did nothing to warn U.S. personnel. This claim has been disputed by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence which noted there was a lack of "any actionable intelligence". See the source Politico for more info. Aquila goes on to blame President Obama for Middle East unrest, as if the problems and con*flicts in this region suddenly materialized within the last 3 and 1/2 years. My favorite part of his letter, however (the part that gave me a laugh) was when Aquila chastised Obama for not being physically present in the White House, (the "empty chair" Clint Eastwood-like reference) as if President Obama had NO access to pertinent national security briefings or other vital or time-sensitive information, if needed, via cell phone, internet (Skype), or other sources. Aquila's stacking the deck is getting pretty stale, in my opinion. Sincerely, Karen

LarryBaca commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 00:39 AM

Karen, you mentionedveterans, did you hear about how the Senate voted (Using the Filibuster again) to vote down a bill that would have helped the job situation for Vets? In fact four of the Republicans who actually had a hand in writing the bill, voted against it. Being a military guy, I wondered how Bull would take that information.
Oh, Bull, Karen has the story right, why are you trying to make what he said, seem like he didn't say what was caught on TAPE?

LarryBaca commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 00:42 AM

Oh, I did send something in to reply to Frank's BS. Along with this piece. Just couldn't help it, Frank makes it so easy...

crimeriddendump commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Frank Aquila is now officially a disgusting, horrid individual. It is my understanding now that Frank Aquila is going around telling everyone who will listen that President Obama is a homosexual.

Is there no end to Frank Aquila's depravity? Seemingly not. Just the same as how completely void Dennis Wyatt and the Manteca Bulletin are of ay journalistic integrity or morals.

Also, I would like to hear Bull153 spin the whole voting against veteran as a good thing. I'm sure if it were people that had a "D" after there name, Bull153 would be acting like they killed his mother.

TheSovereign commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I might be coming in a little late in the conversation, but I wanted to comment on the fabricated notion that Iran would be a nuclear threat. It is no more likely that if and when Iran develops and or produces a nuclear weapon, that they would utilize it any more than Pakistan or North Korea has.

In typical weak kneed spineless fashion do we hear those who only know fear. If one understands the logic that posessing such a weapon only give the country posessing one a seat at the table, and the ability to hold other nuclear weaponed countries at bay. Continuing with logic and reason, it would be suicidal for any country to use such a weapon in an aggressive manner.

One must consider the fact that a buligerent and rogue country, like North Korea, if they are able to further develop a missile system that could carry a war head realistically would be able to hit the United States (Alaska). I do not see the fear mongering concerning the possibility of a North Korean threat. North Korea has never taken over an American embassy or held the embassy staff hostage before... Or the fact that they don't have oil reserves.

Iran is just a political football for those who are fear mongering, wanting to keep defense spending high, and to keep an oil producing nation back on their heels.

TheSovereign commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:35 PM

The great thing about the Conservative propaganda machine that includes the likes of Aguila, Foxnews, Rush, Drudge, or Beck, is that they have been so over the top since the last election that they have no credibility, and people are just brushing them off for what they are, ridiculous. They have said everything they could have about this President, that now they just sound ridiculous. Just look at the ridiculousness of right wing bloggers any more and you see a futile effort with no staying power. They have thrown so much mud at the wall hoping something sticks, that they now appear dirty.

As one can see in the failure of Romney to get any traction due to his contant attacking with no vision, people are tired of the nonsense. When you hear a wing nut bring up Nancy Pelosi in a negatively propaganda driven way, it not only turns the average American off, but it paints the person making the statement as a manipulative fool.

The best thing is to let them speak so all can see just how juvenally simple minded they are, and how they some how think that others are the same. As the old saying goes, talk to the hand, because no one is listening anymore.

LarryBaca commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 14:43 PM

Guess we will have to wait a bit on Bull's response to that Vets jobs bill his guys turned down...

KarenPearsall commented on Saturday, Sep 22, 2012 at 23:08 PM

Hello crimeriddendump, As I have criticized Aquila for spreading rumors and unproven claims I feel that, in all fairness, I should ask you about your comment that it is your understanding that "Aquila is going around telling everyone who will listen that President Obama is a homosexual". What brought you to this understanding? I have not heard anything like this and am wondering how you can assert this without offering back-up proof, or an actual quote, or an incident that can be corroborated. Otherwise, your remark comes too close to mere character assassination. I hold you to the same high standards that I expect from others and myself, as well. Sincerely, Karen

crimeriddendump commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 08:41 AM

Hi KarenPearsall

Sorry, I should have included the link. This is an article from his blog titled "Obama: America’s First Gay President" http://frankaquila.wordpress.com/2012...

Sorry for the confusion, I thought the contents of Frank's ignorant blog were public knowledge. I'm relieved to find out otherwise.

rozemist commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:08 AM
KarenPearsall commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 13:49 PM

Hello crimeriddendump, Thank you for the clarification. That blog of Aquila's hit a new personal low. But sadly, I'm afraid he is quite capable of sinking even lower, if he continues with his disreputable tactic of spreading rumors and innuendo. Sincerely, Karen

crimeriddendump commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 18:28 PM

Hi KarenPearsall,

Yes, sorry for not posting the link. The article was dated May and I thought Frank Aquila's extreme prejudice was already known. Seems not if this publication would continue to give leniency allowing him to contribute nothing but imaginary tales, obvious falsehoods, and horrific insights into his twisted bias.

At what point does the Manteca Bulletin stop printing Frank Aquila's insane ramblings?

Bull153 commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 20:46 PM

@ LarryBaca...

You wanted to know my opinion on the failure of SB 3457, the Veterans Job Corp Act. Personally, I am against the bill and I do not support legislation designed to duplicate existing programs, expand the liberal entitlement mentality, and increase the national debt. I would rather Congress pass legislation that cuts our in*flated defense department spending, reigns in other excessive federal spending, and supports private enterprise and job creation. This bill would only create more government dependent jobs and won't help the private sector.

“This violates the Budget Control Act, there is no dispute about it,” Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said in a floor speech Wednesday. “The bill will not even go through the House and it violates the Constitution because it says revenue bills must be started in the House ... [and] this is a revenue bill.”

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said these types of pay-go bills are part of the problem of the growing national debt.

“The question in my mind is, will we at some point in the future recognize the hole we’re in,” Coburn said on the floor Wednesday. “When we find ourselves in $16 trillion of debt and we pay for a five-year bill over 10 years, we make the problem worse.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action...

" [The] VA administers a variety of benefits and services that provide financial and other forms of assistance to Veterans, their dependents, and survivors. Major benefits include Veterans’ compensation, Veterans’ pension, survivors’ benefits, rehabilitation and employment assistance, education assistance, home loan guaranties, and life insurance coverage.

http://www.va.gov/landing2_vetsrv.htm

-Ron

rozemist commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 21:08 PM

In Aguilas ranting on the link you provided
crimeriddendump besides the accusation that the President is gay is a dark, an sinister innuendo
This type of thing goes beyond just
having an opposing political view.
Sincerely, rozemist

crimeriddendump commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 21:46 PM

Hi rozemist,

Honestly, the Bulletin should be ashamed not only for publishing his letters but also for advocating his organization. It is now abundantly clear that Aquilla is a hate monger and bigot.

crimeriddendump commented on Sunday, Sep 23, 2012 at 21:57 PM

Hi Bull153,

Wait a second, are you saying you are against the WHOLE VA because it "duplicate[s] existing programs, expand[s] the liberal entitlement mentality, and increase[s] the national debt ???" It sounds like it.

Also Bull153 are you calling bill author Sen Pat Toomey "liberal?" Could you clarify?

revengeofmomo commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 01:12 AM

It is worth noting that his article is strikingly similar in tone, content, and sentence structure to that of an article by Erik Rush.

Frank's:
Young was an openly gay man, who was shot and killed in his Chicago home on December 3, 2007. ... Quite curiously, neither Obama nor his campaign said anything regarding the murders, since Norma Jean Young, Donald Young’s mother, revealed that Obama and Donald were “close friends.” Nor were there ever any questioning of Obama or his staffers by the Chicago Police

Rush's:
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/r...
Young, known for having a flamboyant persona, was an openly gay man...Curiously, neither Sen. Obama, his surrogates nor law enforcement had anything to say regarding the circumstantial connection. Nowhere in the news reports of the killings has there been any mention of Obama, or the questioning of him or any of his cohorts or staffers by Chicago police.

I contacted Mr. Rush about this, and he said that he would look into it. Fareed Zakaria was suspended from two organizations for something that I think looked far less similar than these two articles.

Bull153 commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:47 AM

@ Revengeofmomo...

It is also worth noting that crimeriddendump's comment is strikingly similar to that in a September 20, 2012 article by Chris Spargo of Newnownext.com on the subject.

"President Barack Obama just cannot get enough of gay bathhouses and gay bars, at least that is what that Chicago gay who keeps running his mouth to anyone who will listen is claiming." - Chris Spargo

"It is my understanding now that Frank Aquila is going around telling everyone who will listen that President Obama is a homosexual." - Crimeriddendump

-Ron

TheSovereign commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It appears that crimeriddendump was correct in his statement.

KarenPearsall commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 13:03 PM

Hello Bull153, If you look at revengeofmomo's examples, there are 19 words that are the same in both quotes, used in the exact same way or in very similar sentence construction. In your examples there are 5 words that are the same or used in similar sentence construction ("who will listen" and "President Obama"). Revengeofmomo's quotes have almost four times the similarities as the examples you note. How do you see this as "strikingly similar"? One of the quotes you reference comments on Frank Aquila's behavior and the other critiques that of a "Chicago gay". Are you seriously implying that Aquila and this "Chicago gay" are somehow "strikingly similar"? Frankly, (pun intended), I just don't see that. In all seriousness, Aquila's quote compared to Erik Rush's, reads eerily like a junior high school student's report that, in basically paraphrasing a source, changes the language around just enough not to be a word-for-word direct copy. On the other hand, expressing the belief that those who suggest the President is some type of "hidden gay" are making a scurrilous accusation is merely shared opinion, not copy-catting, especially since the two quotes are criticizing TWO DIFFERENT people. Sincerely, Karen

Bull153 commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 13:20 PM

@ KarenPearsall...

I was being sarcastic...
Crimeriddendump just likes to belittle and demean others. Here are examples from just this blog.

"And Bull153 to conclude, your "opinion" is uneducated. This might be one of the reasons your posting are always so hypocritical - you just have no idea what you are talking about."

"No wonder you use the term "my facts" so often, you have no idea what the word "facts" means at all."

"Wow, there is so much double talk in Bull153's post above my head is spinning!!"

"Sorry Bull153. Post again once you learn the difference between your imagination and facts."

"I'm sure if it were people that had a "D" after there name, Bull153 would be acting like they killed his mother."

There is no substantiation to any of the above statements, there is no discussion of opposing views, just mean spirited vile comments. No one other than Randy seems interested enough to comment. But I make a sarcastic jab at Hoffman and two of you jump to his defense.

It figures...

-Ron

KarenPearsall commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 13:52 PM

Hello Bull153, Sorry, I did not pick up that you were being "sarcastic". Sarcasm is sometimes tricky to get across in print. In person, one can tell by the speaker's tone of voice, gestures, facial expressions, and other physical clues whether comments are meant in a sarcastic vein or not. I will not disagree with you that cimeriddendump's posts can "belittle and demean others". I won't say, not knowing him or her personally, if he "just likes" to do so, for sheer enjoyment, or is actually trying to make a point or educate (although in an unfortunately rude way). I think you should examine your own behavior also. You do not always adhere to your high standards and can sometimes be guilty of the very thing that you find so understandably abhorrent in crimeriddendump's posts. I also wanted to clarify that I was not "jumping to defend" crimeriddendump from your "sarcastic jab", I was merely pointing out that your argument, which I did not read as sarcastic joking, was illogical, did not seem strong, and was more of an apples-to-oranges comparison. Lastly, this is just my opinion, but when you (or anyone else) end a post with "It figures", that comes across as a petulant "everyone is picking on me" attitude or "that just fulfills my preconceived notion" opinion that does not bode well for furthering any rational discussion. And that is a waste because I think I could learn some important ideas and different perspectives from you, if you did not choose to play the victim here. Sincerely, Karen

Friendo commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 14:41 PM

I understood the sarcasm. It clearly wasn't difficult to pick up on.

KarenPearsall commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 14:58 PM

Hello Friendo, The fact that you "understood the sarcasm" doesn't necessarily mean that it "clearly wasn't difficult to pick up on". It only means that it "clearly" wasn't difficult for YOU to get. Do you think that sarcasm is as easy to convey in writing as it is in person? Even an author as well-known as Jonathan Swift was sometimes misunderstood in his time and his savage sarcasm was mistaken for advocacy of certain outlandish ideas. My point is that sarcasm in person, often a seemingly effortless skill of teenage girls ( and the bane of their parents), doesn't always translate so flawlessly into print (without written contextual clues such as "eye roll", "mouth grimace", "heavy sigh" etc.) But it is probably gratifying for Bull153 to know that someone got his intention immediately. Sincerely, Karen

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 18:43 PM

Hi Bull153,

Seems you are - again - being a hypocrite in trying to attack for the very same things you so often do yourself.

Also, there are PILES of substantiation to my comments . It's not my fault you have an incredibly selective memory and refuse to recall any and have some odd need to play the victim with over the top melodrama. The whole thing is incredible transparent and frankly - pun intended - a waste of time.

Get over yourself Bull153. If you can't handle your outlandish and hypocritical opinions being criticized then stop posting them. Otherwise, give the melodrama and hypocrisy a rest. Or were you just being "sarcastic" this whole time ...

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 18:45 PM

Hi KarenPearsall,

It's genrally difficult for the right hand to not know what the left is up to ...

LarryBaca commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 19:09 PM

In this case it seems Bull has three right hands, one on load from Fredo...:-)
Bull, it just seems strange to me that you would be against anything that may help Vets...Especially those from Bushs two wars...

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Sep 24, 2012 at 22:56 PM

Hi LarryBacca,

Bull153 needs to clarify his double talk. On one hand, he posts a whole bit about honoring vets etc and then on the other he suggests here that giving vets preferred treatment is somehow offensive. I don't get it, how can he have it both ways?

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 00:28 AM

Remember he is a follower of Mr. Etch-a-Sketch himself...

Bull153 commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 02:53 AM

@ KarenPearsall...

You needn't apologize for not picking up my sarcastic comment. As you point out, it is a common occurrence with the written word which is devoid of facial expressions and vocal tone. I was expressing my exasperation at one individual's constant 'holier than thou' posts accusing people of everything from product tampering to assassinating JFK.

So you're telling me to examine my own behavior. I have been, every since I decided to once again try and contribute here to the discussions. I don't expect people to agree with me, hell I don't agree with everyone else. But I do hold the right to my opinion, and I get perturbed when I am told my opinion is uneducated and without merit just because some so called genius doesn't agree with it. I am told statements such as "I'm sure if it were people that had a "D" after there name, Bull153 would be acting like they killed his mother." are substantiated. Could someone please explain just how ANYONE can provide proof for such an outlandish assertion? The lack of logic in such a comment is enough to give Mr. Spock a galactic migraine.

I don't have an 'everyone is picking on me' attitude. You have never been insulting or demeaning towards me and we rarely ever agree on a point of view. Rozemist hasn't belittled my comments or accused me of not knowing what I am talking about. It just seems I have become the pet project of our local 'three stooges' - crimeriddendump, LarryBaca, and theSovereign - who would prefer to insult my military service, demean my opinion, and disrespect me as a person. The evidence is irrefutable.

Sarcasm is illogical. I don't buy your position that you were just pointing out my comment was illogical. You have yet to point out the many weak and illogical arguments of the 'three'. Or do you accept that "I'm sure if it were people that had a "D" after there name, Bull153 would be acting like they killed his mother." How can anyone know what I will or won't do? That is just asinine.

So, I've decided to ignore what I choose to, respond to what I choose to, and have the opinion that I choose to. I will be as civil as I am treated. You can continue to be the voice of reason and logic. If that makes me 'playing the victim' I really don't give a rodent's posterior.

-Ron

Bull153 commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 02:54 AM

@ LarryBaca...

You really need to read my comment on SB 3457 again. Nowhere have I said I am against something that may help vets. I am against this bill, and only this bill for the reasons stated.

- It duplicates training programs already available and funded by the VA for all veterans.

- It is another unfunded program that increases our spending rather
than cutting it.

-It is another end around ploy to fund more 'entitlement spending' for government sector jobs rather than helping the private sector.

My support for veterans doesn't depend on what war they fought in - that is asinine. I want every veteran from every war and anyone who honorably served to be treated with respect and have the programs available to them they were promised when they joined the military. I find the comment that I would especially want to support veterans of wars that Bush 'started' patently offensive.

By the way, crimeriddendump failed comprehension. Please show me where anything I said in my response on SP 3457 suggests that I find giving vets preferred treatment offensive. I oppose one flawed bill. I would never oppose prompt, fair, and equitable treatment for our veterans.

Finally, because I am an opponent of Barack Obama doesn't make me a supporter of Mitt Romney any more than TheSovereign's opposition of Mitt Romney makes him a Barack Obama supporter. I am not an 'etch-a-sketch' follower.

-Ron

rozemist commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 08:57 AM
crimeriddendump commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 08:59 AM

Wow! So much double talk from Bull153 my head is spinning!!!

"I don't have an 'everyone is picking on me' attitude ... I have become the pet project of our local 'three stooges' - crimeriddendump, LarryBaca, and theSovereign - who would prefer to insult my military service, demean my opinion, and disrespect me as a person."

How HYPOCRITICAL that at the same time as he complains about being insulted, Bull153 does the same thing he complains about!! Unreal!! Also Bull153 labeling three people as "stooges" and then saying they insult and demean you makes Bull153's statement of "I don't have an 'everyone is picking on me' attitude" seem incredibly disingenuous and just outright hypocritical.

Also, Bull153's whole point against SB 3457 is complete hypocrisy as well. In one breath he says
"I want every veteran from every war and anyone who honorably served to be treated with respect and have the programs available to them they were promised when they joined the military" and the next he says "It is another unfunded program that increases our spending."

So really, Bull153's opinion is that he is AGAINST Veteran programs if the programs do not fit into his fiscal political beliefs. In other words, partisan politics are more important to Bull153 than the well-being of his fellow Veterans. Further, Bull153 seems to feel that if new services are being offered that are similar to existing services, Veterans should just be happy with what they got and not contribute to further government spending.

Next time Bull153 should just write what he means instead of putting on the show of double talk and melodrama. It is quite obvious from his posts that he puts petty politics infront of the health and future suport of Veterans.

crimeriddendump commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:04 AM

Hi Bull153,

Also, you have still not clarified if you think SB 2457 author Sen Pat Toomey "liberal." Why is that??? I do find it odd how you call a GOP authored Vets bill "liberal."

Could you please clarify your comments on how SB 3457 was " liberal entitlement" please!

crimeriddendump commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Hi Bull153,

You say: "because I am an opponent of Barack Obama doesn't make me a supporter of Mitt Romney"

So, are you NOT VOTING for Romney? TheSovereign has made it VERY clear that he is not voting for Obama. You saying that you are not a suporter of Mitt Romney and then voting for him would be incredibly disingenuous.

Please clarify as all your double talk is highly confusing.

KarenPearsall commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 13:36 PM

Hello Bull153, You wrote, "But I make a sarcastic jab at Hoffman and two of you jump to his defense. It figures", referring to posts from TheSovereign and myself. As you have pointed out, I try not to be "insulting or demeaning " towards you. Yet the quoted comment IS very dismissive and DOES foster a "poor me, I am being picked on" vibe.
I suggested that you examine your behavior because you have a tendency to make excuses for slipping in your OWN insults. I usually do not critique TheSovereign's, LarryBaca's, or crimeriddendump's words because, with the exception of crimeriddendump, they have not set themselves up as purveyors of exemplary behavior, nor do I recall them ever complaining about being ridiculed, teased, or insulted. They give as good as they get. Honestly, I think that LarryBaca relishes exchanges where posters tweak each other or engage in witty put-downs. That is not my style, but it works for others (including Friendo). You DO have a point with crimeriddendump, not because of the messages behind his posts, which I often find to be accurate and insightful, but because he has set himself up, in past comments, to expect rational debate, not insults, yet stoops to that same behavior. That IS unfair. But as you so clearly recognize that behavior in him, look at your word choice: "Our local three stooges", "some so called genius", and "I really don't give a rodent's posterior", are all examples where you do not adhere to your own expectations of forum behavior.

I liked your comment about the lack of logic giving "Mr. Spock a galactic headache". That was funny and pointed without being unnecessarily insulting. It's a perfect way to debate. You don't have to roll over and take someone else's insults, but can emerge on higher ground by using rational counterpoints, mixed with humor. Speaking of rational counterpoints, after you write that "sarcasm is illogical", you take crimeriddendump's obviously facetious and sarcastic comment, "I'm sure if it were people that had a "D" after there name, Bull153 would be acting like they killed his mother", and then complain that it is illogical. According to YOUR definition of sarcasm, why wouldn't it be? Also, you say that you "don't buy" my position that I was just pointing out your illogical comments. Yet instead of using the "My post was sarcastic and sarcasm IS illogical" defense, you sink to the "you're just picking on me and letting the other kids get away with the same thing" schoolyard argument ("You have yet to point out the many weak and illogical arguments of the 'three'"). Rationally, even if you feel that you are being "singled out", that has nothing to do with the VALIDITY of my original criticism. Your comments about the "strikingly similar" quotes WERE lacking in logic and an inapt comparison. Bit if one accepts your definition of "sarcasm" and the claim that your post was merely sarcastic, then this explains why. Sincerely, Karen

TheSovereign commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 22:23 PM

"I don't have an 'everyone is picking on me' attitude ... I have become the pet project of our local 'three stooges' - crimeriddendump, LarryBaca, and theSovereign - who would prefer to insult my military service, demean my opinion, and disrespect me as a person." - you get what you give. If you don't want people to rebut your opinions, don't post them on sites that allow rebuttal.

Bull, I have said this of you in the past on the other blog, you want to be like Rush or Beck where you can freely state your opinion, regardless of how void it is of fact, without return comment. Get your own radio or obscure cable show and do so where you can't see or hear return comment. You have not established any credibility, only mimicking what you hear on right wing media, and then expect to come here and repeat it unabated. You may see us as stooges but the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

I am amazed at such Pollyanna, poor me victimization from a supposed military man, but then, you are a Conservative, so maybe my expectations were a little too high for you considering that fact.

Bull153 commented on Tuesday, Sep 25, 2012 at 22:34 PM

@TheSovereign...

You know, I wouldn't mind rebuttal of my opinions, regardless of how credible you seem to think they are. But you don't, you simply insult and demean. That's OK, you can consider me any way you wish. You have been quite clear how you feel about conservatives. I get it.

So go ahead, bring it on. I disagree with you that I am void of facts. Maybe it is simply you don't want to recognize the facts I present because they differ from yours. Your claim I only mimmick right wing media is so much bovine scatology. The sources I have used in recent comment have all been from recognized media and not Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.

I care little what your expectations are. I recognize it doesn't matter. I am a conservative - so what - and I'm not going to apologize for it.

-Ron

Bull153 commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 00:23 AM

@ KarenPearsall;

I'm glad you enjoyed my 'Spock migraine' comment. On the other hand, since sarcasm seems not to be one of my skills, I'll try and stay away from it. It appears that even when I use recognized media sources and am clear on my point, some people are still confused. Perhaps it is better that I avoid adding sarcasm, no matter how well intended, to the mix.

-Ron

LarryBaca commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 00:37 AM

Funny how the reasons Bull choose for being against the Vets Jobs bill mimic almost exactly what I heard from a Republican on the house floor.
Bull's Etch-a-sketch needs some serious shaking...

Bull153 commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 02:42 AM

@ LarryBaca

Why is that funny? I referenced both Sen. Sessions and Sen. Coburn in my original response. What they said made sense and I agree.

Maybe you're the one who needs some shaking...

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 08:40 AM

Seems Bull153 is in his childish ignore everyone/ take the ball and go home mode again.

I highly doubt he will directly respond to anything here again. Especially how he called Sen Pat Toomey "liberal" and how he said he was not voting for Romney.

Whatever. I think Bull153 rampant hypocrisy and double talk is now plainly obvious to all.

TheSovereign commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 13:42 PM

You are void of facts. You make erroneous statements concerning the other major party, their followers and our President. It's obvious that you are of a separate and distinct party, but to lie and cast false statements about these people with only opinion and no facts, leaves you void of facts.

Bull153 commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 18:35 PM

@ TheSovereign...

Kindly explain your last comment. I KNOW you are not talking about me. You don't provide any proof. Your comment is just so much ranting and false accusations. Maybe you're talking to Crimeriddendump - that makes more sense. If you want a response, stop being petulant and be specific.

...and get your minion to stop posting out and out lies. I'm still here, I never called Sen. Toomey a liberal, and I have not said who I will or will not vote for.

The only thing that is plainly obvious is that some of your supporters are inept, illogical, and incompetent.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 21:11 PM

Hi Bull153,

You said "I am an opponent of Barack Obama [and that] doesn't make me a supporter of Mitt Romney." Now it seems like you ARE a Romney supporter. Which is it Bull153? What side of your mouth is telling the real story today? Or, have you spun around so much you don't even know what you think anymore?

Also, you called SB 3457 "liberal entitlement." Republican Senator Pat Toomey authored the bill. Therefore, you more or less called Pat Toomey a liberal.

Sorry Bull153, the only thing that seems constant from you is the double talk. I have never once seen you give a straight, honest answer to anything and it is clear you won't be bucking that trend here and now.

It would really be refreshing for you to give up your melodrama, and participate in a conversation instead of constantly putting out double talk, and hypocritical hyperbole.

Bull153 commented on Wednesday, Sep 26, 2012 at 23:03 PM

What's in a Name...

@ crimeriddendump...

OK, you tell me what I said that proves I support Mitt Romney any more than TheSovereign supports Barack Obama.

Give me one example where I said I support Mitt Romney...just one. If not, shut your yap on the subject.

As for Sen. Toomey, please check YOUR facts. The bill was authored by Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FLA) and cosponsored by ten other Democratic senators, including Al Franken. While five Republican senators voted for the bill, Sen. Toomey wasn't one of them, voting 'Nay'.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills...

Text of SB 3457
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-...

You haven't got a clue what I am against or why. You may have your opinion on what YOU think I am against. Being against one bill that duplicates services available hardly means I am against veteran's services. Partisan politics has nothing to do with it, continuing to spend this nation into oblivion does. If you want to help veterans, then improve the programs in existence, fix the broken hospitals and depleted staff, and provide the services that were already promised. The answer is not in creating a new boondoggle of a training program to fill more government jobs.

I'm still waiting for you to defend your statement that I find helping veterans offensive. I find YOUR comment offensive. When was the last time you went to the VA hospital in Livermore just to visit with some veterans? When was the last time you took books, magazines, and games to the medical center at Travis AFB and visited with the warriors there that are far from home? Don't you dare tell me I find helping veterans offensive.

You are a liar. You said 'I have never once seen you give a straight, honest answer to anything...' In this very blog I responded twice to LarryBaca's question "...did you hear about how the Senate voted (Using the Filibuster again) to vote down a bill that would have helped the job situation for Vets? In fact four of the Republicans who actually had a hand in writing the bill, voted against it. Being a military guy, I wondered how Bull would take that information." and later "Guess we will have to wait a bit on Bull's response to that Vets jobs bill his guys turned down..."

So tell me, what is dishonest or not straight in my response? I said " I am against the bill and I do not support legislation designed to duplicate existing programs, expand the liberal entitlement mentality, and increase the national debt." Just because YOU don't like the answer doesn't make it dishonest.

I prefer to ignore people who are spiteful. mean spirited, and do not want a discussion, but an opportunity to belittle and demean others. You never disagree on point, you just spew forth more insults. I don't want to play your game. You can call it double talk or hypocrisy all you want, the fact is you don't want a debate, you want a childish schoolyard fistfight. I'm not interested.

-Ron

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 00:05 AM

"...I do not support legislation designed to duplicate existing programs"
What did the Vets jobs bill already have in place? and how do you explain how four Senators who wrote parts of the bill, yet voted against it?

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 00:44 AM

Hi LarryBacca,

Bull153 is seemingly in denial of Sen Pat Toomey and three other Republican Senators participation in SB 3547.

It's sad when people like Bull153 let prejudice cloud their view of reality.

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 00:54 AM

Hi Bull153,

As always, more hypocrisy and double talk from you.

"Give me one example where I said I support Mitt Romney"

Bull153, your first three posts here are long declarations of Mitt Romney support. Are you pretending that never happened??? How can you pretend that your post at the top of this comment section doesn't exist??? It is absolutely demented.

Get with reality please.

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 02:31 AM

@ LarryBaca...

How about the Veterans Opportunity to Work to Hire Heroes Act, known as VOW, a retraining program that focuses on 99,000 35-60 year old veterans for high demand jobs? Or the Post 9/11 Montgomery GI Bill, the original Montgomery GI Bill, and the Veterans Vocational Rehabilitation and Retraining programs?

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/ve...

There is also the Veterans Workforce Investment Program that has approximately $12,000,000.00 in grants to help some 6,000 veterans with their civilian careers.

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/ve...

The Department of Labor has an entire program called VETS, Veterans' Employment and Training Service. The Veteran's Administration also has programs of its own. That doesn't even take into account each state's programs, such as California's EDD's Services for Veterans.

http://www.edd.ca.gov/Jobs_and_Traini...

I can't explain what other senators do. The bill was sponsored by a Democrat and co-sponsored by 10 other Democrats. An amendment was authored by four Republican senators. But asking me why four senators who supposedly helped write the bill voted against it is as ridiculous as asking why five senators who are supposedly supposed to follow party lines voted for it. I don't know what motivated any of the senators to vote as they did. Perhaps they agree with me that it is a wasteful duplication of services and doesn't cut spending. Maybe you should just ask them...

-Ron

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 02:48 AM

@ crimeriddendump...

Tell me exactly what part of "I never said I support Mitt Romney" you don't comprehend. You give a pass to TheSovereign when he criticizes Mr. Romney and say he doesn't support Mr. Obama. Why can't you accept the same from me if I say I don't support Mitt Romney and criticize Mr. Obama? By the way, your contention that my first three posts here constitute evidence I said I support Mr. Romney is laughable. I admit I criticized Mr. Obama's foreign policy and conduct, but I defy you to show where I supported Mitt Romney's.

Just because you say my "first three posts here are long declarations of Mitt Romney support." doesn't make it so.

Perhaps YOU'RE the one in need of a dose of reality...

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:33 AM

So wait a second Bull153, you say that your first three posts here are NOT supporting Mitt Romney? Not even the Washington Times blog post saying that Romney should be elected just because of Syria? So, was your post THEN disingenuous , or are you just being melodramatic NOW about your Romney support?

Just to be 100% clear with you, here is the blog link you posted supporting Romney:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/r...

You have this amazing ability Bull153 to pretend like you never said things you actually said. Frankly - pun intended - you remind me of another local myopic GOP suporter. The whole thing is really sad how to people like you and Frank, prejudice s more important than reality.

So, who are you voting for if not Romney? No one????

Oh, right, you won't answer because answering would just be yet-another example of you being a hypocrite. Say one thing and then do the opposite ...

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:59 AM

@ crimeriddendump...

I don't know where you are getting that my first three posts above show I support Mitt Romney. The posts contain factual data and comments by others critical of Mr. Obama and his policies. Kindly quote one sentence in any of the three posts, just one, that reflects that I support Mitt Romney. I oppose Barack Obama - that is clearly shown.

You have an amazing ability to make false accusations that I said things I never said. You also claim to know what I think and what I feel. That is far sadder than any unsubstantiated allegations of prejudice. Your problem is you cannot prove anything you claim. It is all in your twisted sense of reality and not based in fact. It is only your opinions... and not fact.

You choose not to defend your conduct regarding theSovereign. That makes you a hypocrite...accepting his behavior as acceptable when the same conduct from me is condemned. You can't have it both ways.

You also conveniently ignore your vile comment that I find helping veterans offensive. Can't you admit that was a stupid and ridiculous statement? Do you accept that you are a liar? You haven't defended your accusation that I have never given a straight, honest answer to anything. Those two actions on your part prove more than anything else why I prefer to ignore you and make you irrelevant.

Others may state who they are going to vote for, but I happen to believe it is none of your business. That is why there are curtains at the voting booths and the vote is secret. I do not support Barack Obama and I think reelecting him would be harmful. I have not decided yet if any of the alternatives will be any better. I may decide not to vote, the first time in my adult life. But it sure isn't any of your business what I decide to do.

...and that doesn't make me a hypocrite.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Hey Bull153,

Again saying I am wrong for attacking and name calling when you do the EXACT SAME THING HERE! That is called something ... I forget what. Look in the mirror much buddy? Oh, right , you don't because ...

That being said: WOW! Look how much melodrama and nonsense it took you to answer a simple question.

"I have not decided yet if any of the alternatives will be any better [than Obama] . I may decide not to vote, the first time in my adult life"

Thank you Bull153!! Was that so hard? Next time, just post that instead and we might finally be getting somewhere!!!

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Hi Bull153,

Let's try and have a constructive conversation:

You say "I have not decided yet if any of the alternatives will be any better [than Obama] . I may decide not to vote, the first time in my adult life" and you have labeled yourself many, many times in the past as a "moderate conservative."

So my question[s]: Why such the negative feelings about if "the alternatives will be any better [than Obama]?" Do you feel the "alternatives" are too conservative, too liberal, or are there specific issues not being addressed that your are specifically concerned about? Who would be your ideal "alternative?"

And please, let's try and just be direct.

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM

@ crimeriddendump...

So, now when are you going to admit you are a liar? When are you going to admit your comment that I find helping veterans "offensive" is stupid and ridiculous? ...and when will you admit your hypocrisy.

If you do, we might finally be getting somewhere.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Hello Bull153,

I tried communicating with you on adult terms - clearly, without insults, without name-calling, without any malice or prejudice. And what do you respond with???

Your above comment makes clear to me - as well as others I'm sure- that you put your petty prejudices ahead of even your own supposed values. Maybe you can prove us all wrong, act like an adult, and actually constructively participate. We'll see if you have it in you; I personally doubt it.

If not, feel free to take your ball and go home ... again ...

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 15:20 PM

@ crimeriddendump...

Oh, no... You don't get to play the victim after dozens of your insulting and false statements. You think you can just ignore your past offensive behavior and play nicey-nice with all forgotten? It doesn't work that way.

You flat out lied. You made a patently offensive comment towards me. You ignore that to deflect attention from your behavior and try to make me your fall guy. So, don't presume to tell me about values after several years of your demonstrated lack of them. I don't have anything to prove, but you have something to own up to. Claiming to communicate as an adult doesn't mitigate your childish behavior. An admission and apology might be a start.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 16:41 PM

Hello Bull153,

As I said, it seems you are incapable of rational exchange. I extended the olive branch; you spit on it.

It is absolutely clear, as I said above, you put petty prejudice above what you claim to value. I don't care how many times you say otherwise, you clearly don't want to have discussions and exchange ideas, you want to proclaim your prejudices and insult anyone who is outside the Michael Savage like ideals you have adopted.

I'm even willing to give you ANOTHER chance to have an adult discussion. I'm still willing to look past your childish behavior and move on. Here is the question again:

"Why such the negative feelings about if "the alternatives will be any better [than Obama]?" Do you feel the "alternatives" are too conservative, too liberal, or are there specific issues not being addressed that your are specifically concerned about? Who would be your ideal "alternative?" "

So far, you are proving me 100% RIGHT that you CAN'T "act like an adult, and actually constructively participate" in these forums and ONLY want to insult and attack. Keep it up, I like it when you prove me right all by yourself!

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 18:07 PM

I hate to see a grown man cry... lets leave Bull alone for awhile, maybe he will calm down some...:-)

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 18:11 PM

On another note, did anyone hear about Ryan referring to Willard as "The Stench"?

KarenPearsall commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 19:27 PM

Hello LarryBaca, I did some research and apparently "The Stench" and the whole scenario it involved was just the product of a writer who was being "satirical". I guess satire, like sarcasm, is in the eye of the beholder and tends to underscore my point that "tongue-in cheek" writings often don't translate well unless said writer is very skilled in the technique. Sincerely, Karen

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 20:48 PM

Karen, yes, I looked it up as well. Since the 47% remark, it seemed like it might have something to it...Ryan has to be feeling like he made a big mistake by now, probably ruined his career by accepting Willard's proposal..:-)

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 21:28 PM

@ crimeriddendump...

The only thing clear here is that you are a liar. YOU are going to give ME another chance? The only childish behavior here is yours. All anyone needs to do is look at your posts above that prove that you are a liar and hypocrite. It is clear as glass and everyone here can see for themselves.

If you really want to have an adult discussion, just man up and admit that you lied and are a hypocrite. Problem solved.

-Ron

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 21:28 PM

@ LarryBaca...

So do I, but I think with time 'TheDumpster' will get over it.

BTW, I'm perfectly calm, thank you!

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Sep 27, 2012 at 23:06 PM

Bull153 finally says something right:

" It is clear as glass and everyone here can see for themselves."

Ironic thing seems to be, the only one that can't see how foolish and childish Bull153 is acting is him.

One more time Bull153, care to participate in my discussion? Or, are you content with continuing to prove me right?

Bull153 commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:42 AM

crimeriddendump...

There is nothing more to add here. I'm content to leave you a proven liar and hypocrite.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Well Bull153,

Thanks for proving me 100% correct. I said above that you lacked the maturity to carry on a basic conversation without insults. Good job on proving me right!

Also, I have often claimed you are an obstinate hypocrite. You have also proved me right on that point as well.

Keep on complaining and refusing to participate in the actual conversation. Keep on trying to tag your own personality deficits on me. Keep up your transparent melodrama. Keep it ALL UP!! As you do, in only helps show how absolutely correct I have been about you all along.

Think about it; all of this melodrama from you over me simply asking you basic questions about your political stance. I honestly feel sorry for you. Sad that you are so bitter and prejudiced you can't even hold a simple conversation without attacking and insulting.

It really is sad and pathetic.

LarryBaca commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 13:35 PM

Bull, you listed three bills that you say are enough for Vets and so the Vets Jobs bill wasn't needed which was to address Vet unemployment figures. Please explain then, why the unemplyment figures for vets is three to four times the national average. Apparently those three bills you listed aren't enough, don't you think?
Also what is your take on the two bills that were blocked by Republicans which would have given cost of living increases to the compensation given to families of fallen soldiers and to the compensation to the wounded??? Are you against that too???

Bull153 commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 16:49 PM

@ LarryBaca...

To refresh your memory I said "I am against this bill, and only this bill for the reasons stated.
- It duplicates training programs already available and funded by the VA for all veterans.
- It is another unfunded program that increases our spending rather
than cutting it.
-It is another end around ploy to fund more 'entitlement spending' for government sector jobs rather than helping the private sector."

I also gave some examples, not all inclusive, of programs available to veterans. Nowhere did I say those three programs (not bills) were 'enough'. You REALLY need to quit putting words in my mouth.

You said "Funny how the reasons Bull choose for being against the Vets Jobs bill mimic almost exactly what I heard from a Republican on the house floor." You still haven't responded why you think that is funny. I said I referenced both Sen. Sessions and Sen. Coburn in my original response. What they said made sense and I agree. You and TheDumpster are great at asking questions... not so much in answering them.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 17:02 PM

Hi Bull153,

Do you not understand hypocrisy at all?

"You and TheDumpster are great at asking questions... not so much in answering them."

You say this right after your huge hissy fit about not wanting to participate in a conversation after I asked a simple question about your political stance!

Keep it up Bull153!! Your hypocrisy and fake indignation is HILARIOUS!!

crimeriddendump commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 17:09 PM

HI Bull153,

I'll try and give you the benefit of the doubt ... AGAIN, and let you try and respond to my comments:

You say "I have not decided yet if any of the alternatives will be any better [than Obama] . I may decide not to vote, the first time in my adult life" and you have labeled yourself many, many times in the past as a "moderate conservative."

So my question[s]: Why such the negative feelings about if "the alternatives will be any better [than Obama]?" Do you feel the "alternatives" are too conservative, too liberal, or are there specific issues not being addressed that your are specifically concerned about? Who would be your ideal "alternative?"

Again, try responding and prove me wrong! Show me that you are actually capable of having a direct conversation. Prove me wrong in my above statement that you are a hypocrite for attacking LarryBacca for not answering direct questions when you do the exact same thing, only worse.

It's not that hard Bull153; all you need to do is respond without insults, attacks or malice. If you can't/won't do that and prove me wrong, that would just make me right by default. We all know you SAY I'm not right, why not actually PROVE IT!

Here it is Bull153. I leave the choice up to you!

LarryBaca commented on Friday, Sep 28, 2012 at 18:35 PM

Bull, by listing bills that "duplicate" the Vets jobs bill implies that it is "enough", right?
You harp on people not responding to questions, how about the two I asked you about?
"Also what is your take on the two bills that were blocked by Republicans which would have given cost of living increases to the compensation given to families of fallen soldiers and to the compensation to the wounded??? Are you against that too???"

LarryBaca commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 00:00 AM

Well Bull? No comment???

Bull153 commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 03:37 AM

@ LarryBaca...

What happened, Sport? Forget how to answer a simple question like what did you find funny about my prior answer? You sure are swell at asking questions, but you really come up short in answering them.

I guess it wasn't funny at all, was it?

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 05:16 AM

Hey LarryBacca,

This guy either doen't know what a hypocrite is, or, doesn't care that he is a horrible, over-the-top one.

"You and TheDumpster are great at asking questions... not so much in answering them."

Seems he should have also added Bull153 to that list ...

LarryBaca commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 15:39 PM

Bull, just about everything you say is funny, you are just a funny guy I don't think anyone has to explain why anyone finds what you say as funny.
Now, you want to get serious and answer my questions?
"Also what is your take on the two bills that were blocked by Republicans which would have given cost of living increases to the compensation given to families of fallen soldiers and to the compensation to the wounded??? Are you against that too???"

Bull153 commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 18:11 PM

@ LarryBaca...

Why even ask any questions if you have already determined that everyone finds what I say funny? You'll have to get your fix on someone else's dime.

TheDumpster says everything I say is wrong... TheSovereign says all conservatives are liars... You find everything I say funny... So there is no point in trying to hold a serious discussion with you Three Stooges.... Nyuk - Nyuk - Nyuk...

I'll give you one last laugh, though. I don't know anything about the bills you are talking about. You don't give a title or a bill number. Just for a general comment, unless it is funded in such a way to not increase the national debt, then I probably would be against it. Retirees and veterans have already had their cost of living increases slashed. Government spending across the board must be cut - and that includes cost of living increases. Otherwise we will continue to spend ourselves further and further in the hole. I just want the politicians to make some sacrifices as well instead of expecting everyone else to shoulder the burden. You just want to keep writing checks even when there isn't money to cover them... you know, that is what's funny. Yep... really hilarious. A real gut buster... (Yes, that is sarcasm...)

-Ron

LarryBaca commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 19:09 PM

Bull, the adjustment is given every year, not sure what the bill number/name is. I just know the adjustments are being blocked by Republicans.
You say Vets and Retirees have already had their increases. This adjustment is not for Vets or Retirees, it is for Survivor Families and wounded Vets. You still against it?

crimeriddendump commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 21:45 PM

Hi LarryBacca,

The bills are HR 4114 and the Senate version is S 2259

Here are the links:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills...
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills...

As I said above, Bull153 is clearly not able to have a discussion without insulting the people he is talking with. Low class to say the least.

Bull153 commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 22:53 PM

@ LarryBaca...

I pretty much have answered the question. This country has to reign in its spending, period. Suspending cost of living increases is one way to cut spending.

Cutting the outrageous pay and perks of our elected officials is another. Cutting the waste and abuse in everything from the defense department to foreign aid needs to be done. There are thousands of ways to cut budgets and spending but our elected officials won't do it... preferring this nation become a socialist welfare state.

There needs to be tax reform so that everyone pays a fair and equitable tax to support our federal, state, and local governments. We must stop writing checks that can't be cashed.

If the cost of living increase cannot be funded without increasing the national debt, then yes, I am against it.

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 at 23:00 PM

Hi Bull153,

You say here:

"If the cost of living increase cannot be funded without increasing the national debt, then yes, I am against it."

While before, you said:

"I would never oppose prompt, fair, and equitable treatment for our veterans"

Which is it Bull153??? You can't have it both ways!

Sounds to me like you think YOUR money is more important that the wellbeing of veteran and their widows/orphans.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. If not, that is deplorable.

LarryBaca commented on Sunday, Sep 30, 2012 at 03:04 AM

Thanks for the bill info Crimeriddendump,I knew Bull would turn against the survivour/wounded compensation increase when he also went against the Vets jobs bill.
Bull is a One-Eyed-Jack but we have all seen the other side of his face...to quote Marlon Brando...
and yes, Bull is indeed "deplorable"...

crimeriddendump commented on Sunday, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Again, I bet if a Democrat blocked this bill, Michael Savage et al would be up in arms and Bull153 would be proudly repeating their words here.

Such rampant hypocrisy is absolutely deplorable.

LarryBaca commented on Monday, Oct 01, 2012 at 01:59 AM

Like the UN-suspecting Clown in the Circus who gets a big cream pie in the face, every time Bull decides to climb on his stool to brag about how he is such a grand supporter of Vets, this deplorable display of hypocrisy should be shoved into his face....

crimeriddendump commented on Monday, Oct 01, 2012 at 09:47 AM

Hey Larry,

And he has officially taken his ball and gone home - from this blog at least.

It's hilarious to see this guy claim to have his own opinions, but, when presented with questions that haven;t already been answered by GOP talking points, he is noticeably silent, feigns offense at even being asked a simple question, insults the person asking the question, and then disappears.

The guy has a definite pattern.

TheSovereign commented on Monday, Oct 01, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Feigning, its a Conservative trait. Feign, feign feign, feign, feign.... They all do it, and it becomes more obvious as time goes by.

LarryBaca commented on Monday, Oct 01, 2012 at 15:05 PM

Notice even Fredo is staying away from this one...

Bull153 commented on Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 05:03 AM

"One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain't nothin' can beat teamwork. - Edward Abbey

crimeriddendump commented on Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 10:55 AM

That s Bull153's answer??? This guy must not have any original thoughts.

Hey Larry, you should ask your question to Matt Drudge. What for Drudge to answer it and the Bull153 can just "summarize" the Drudge bit here for us to re-read.

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 16:54 PM

You have to excuse Bull, it's pretty hard to see or even think with a big pie smashed in his face...

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 17:01 PM

Hey what happened to the blog from Crimeriddendump (forgot the title) about the MB and city politics.
A serious discussion was being had by Crimeriddendump, Karen and the Sov (with a few dumb comments from Fredo)
Their discussion was pretty informative for me since I do not keep up with city affairs.
Was it in a different place and not in the Politics section? Where did it go? Anyone?

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Which one are you talking about? Bull153 often buries anything interesting and informative with his psychic readings.

You are right Larry, it is sad that local issues - in a local paper - are often buried by people repeating ad-nausim party line talking points from a national election that frankly does not matter here in California.

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 15:55 PM

Crimeriddendump, it wasthe one you and Karen were have a disscussion on, I think it was started with a complaint about the MB and Dennis...
You are right about the election not being much of an issue here in Ca. It's pretty much a shoe in for Obama here. I really don't see why the Right even tries in this state. All this jabber on the blog from the right fringe is just background noise..just spitting in the wind...

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 15:57 PM

Never mind just found it...

Friendo commented on Thursday, Oct 18, 2012 at 19:00 PM

Still think they were protestors Lock Step Larry?

LarryBaca commented on Friday, Oct 19, 2012 at 17:29 PM

Hey, there's Fredo...whatcha talkin bout boy?

LarryBaca commented on Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 16:02 PM

Best quote of the night, "Gov. Romney, we don't have horses or bayonets either, we got these things they call Aircraft Carriers where planes land on them and we got these ships that go under water, Nuclear Submarines, this isn't a game of "Battleship" where we count each others ships Governor..".......The Real Commander-In-Chief....Barack Obama .....I love it when I wake up and Barack Obama is STILL PRESIDENT!!!

Capitalists_Nightmare commented on Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 17:36 PM

I think that was pretty funny too, I think Obama took Jon Stewart's advice and decided to try and be funny because Obama can be while Romney can only make jokes that only rich people like.

Bull153 commented on Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 02:59 AM

@ TheBaca...

The best quote of the night was from Mitt Romney: "Attacking me is not an agenda. Attacking me is not talking about how we're going to deal with the challenges that exist in the Middle East..."

By the way, our present Commander-in-Chief missed the point. We do in fact have aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines, but we also still use bayonets and horses. Every Marine and Soldier is issued an M9 bayonet as part of their basic equipment issue. All USAF Security Police personnel assigned to air base defense are issued the bayonet. Besides the various ceremonial units in Washington DC, near Ft. Bragg a unit of horses is used to help train US Special Forces deploying to Afghanistan where horseback is often the only mode of transport.

http://www.horsechannel.com/horse-exc...

Spero News editor Martin Barillas had this to say about Mr. Obama's comment to Mr. Romney: "Obama's quip was true enough and certainly would have made points among high school sophomores. But he did not indicate clearly how he will deal with China, aside from talk about "pressure" and engagement... Obama's dismissiveness may have won some points with his followers, and he still might pull off this election. But Obama should bear in mind that witty remarks such as his are lost in a world increasingly violent and unpredictable. Unfortunately, his words will not be as persuasive with China - or Iran - as the point of a bayonet."

http://www.speroforum.com/a/BQWVLBFAI...

Well said, Mr. Barillas!

-Ron

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 09:44 AM

I guess Bull153 feels enough time has transpired that people will forget about his "stupid little communist" comment and how Bull153 has YET to apologize for his foul and offensive comments.

One would have thought before commenting again, a more mature and honroable person would have actually apologized to the community. I guess Bull153 is not that.

Friendo commented on Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 18:03 PM

MHoffman, Why demand from others that which you will not give yourself?
You lack any credibility due to your documented online history. Give it a rest or this forum can get very ugly once again, and Mhoffman will be the catalyst. Dude, go take an anger management class and get over it.

LET IT GO!!!

crimeriddendump commented on Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 18:57 PM

Hello Wilma,

I'm laughing at the irony of your post. Was that intentional?

LarryBaca commented on Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 21:33 PM

Bull you got b slapped on that bayonette thing once before you want it again?

Friendo commented on Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 03:51 AM

Yes AwfulHoffHole, the irony was intended much like your unwarranted and relentless provocation directed at Bull153 is intended. HoffHole, why are you always trying to extract apologies from others when you avoid handing them out yourself? Why do you trip on it dude? You should consider self-exclusion from these blogs until you can control your intended provocations.
Self-Exclude Dude! Self Exclude!

Fredo Baca you are the only online member to ever B-Slap himself when you hacked your own password and reported it. An online self induced B-Slap from Fredo Baca who is smart! and can do things! What a Richard Cabeça!:)

crimeriddendump commented on Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM

I find the above comments insulting, offensive and completely immature. The above poster should be ashamed of his brazen lack of class.

Friendo commented on Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 14:52 PM

Hoffy, I was hoping you would give me some pointers that would help sharpen my insulting, offensive and completely immature comments. Maestro, I am reaching out to you and humbly seeking your expertise in online insults. You can call me Grasshopper.

Capitalists_Nightmare commented on Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 17:02 PM

What I find funny is the right-wing jumping on Obama for saying we don't use bayonets and horses when in fact what he said was we use those things less which is obviously true. Romney was trying to make the case that our military might was being diminished by Obama by pointing out we had less naval vessels than in 1917. Obama pointed out that less ships=/=less power.

LarryBaca commented on Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 19:32 PM

Fredo, what with "Dude" You trying to be a cool white guy from the 90's. I bet you wear your hat backwards too..


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