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Once again, apparently still smarting from the recent Supreme Court ruling in favor of the Affordable Health Care Act, President Obama's signature accomplishment, Mr. Aquila tries to float another sinking log, (Obama, transparency plus Fast & furious) Jun 29. http://www.mantecabulletin.com/section/37/article/46623/
Mr. Aquila parrots the ridiculous GOP claim that "Fast and Furious" was really conceived by the Obama Administration as a nefarious plot to get rid of the 2nd Amendment. Now who do you think is behind this ridiculous conspiracy theory? Can you spell NRA? And who do you think is crying wolf the loudest? Yep, our friend Rush Limbaugh (Who, by the way, promised to leave the country if the Health Care Act passed and go to Costa Rica. WELL?). But none of the people promoting this theory have ever provided any hard evidence to prove its existence. Even Fox News host Bill O'Reilly dismissed such claims as a "conspiracy thing." And for good reason; the "evidence" offered by promoters is circumstantial and the theory's logic entirely speculative. In fact, Obama has expanded, rather than restricted, the right to carry a gun during his first term.
Mr. Aquila also tries to make something out of Presidents Obama's assertion of Executive Privilege over a set of internal Department of Justice documents on Jun 20. There are two problems with this argument. First, Obama only asserted executive privilege over documents generated after February 4, 2011. Fast and Furious was terminated in January 2011. According to the letter that DOJ sent to Obama asking the president to assert his privilege, the documents in question "were created after the investigative tactic at issue in that operation had terminated and in the course of the Department's deliberative process concerning how to respond to congressional and related media inquiries into that operation."


Secondly, presidents have traditionally asserted executive privilege over matters in which they are not personally involved. When President George W. Bush first used executive privilege in December 2001, he acted to shield internal DOJ documents . In a separate instance in 2008, his Attorney General, Michael Mukasey, advised the president that he could shield Environmental Protection Agency documents because "..the doctrine of executive privilege also encompasses Executive Branch deliberative communications that do not implicate presidential decisionmaking." Mr. Aquila has probably and conveniently forgotten the many times President Bush asserted Executive Privilege in cases such as VP Dick Cheney;s secret meeting with high level energy executives or in rejecting subpoenas for Karl Rove plus a few others that can easily be researched.


As for Mr. Aquila's claim that "..the government secretly sold 2,000-3,000 weapons to Mexican drug cartels" and allowing the guns to 'walk' across the border to Mexico. Mr. Aquila should make himself aware of this fact, House Oversight Chair Darrell Issa (R-CA) has even acknowledged , in testimony before the House Rules Committee, that he has "no evidence" or even a "strong suspicion" that Holder was aware of the gunwalking tactics allegedly used in Fast and Furious or that they even happened at all.

Apparently Mr. Aquila has a problem with facts getting the in the way of his real agenda and everyone should be well aware of what that is by now.


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redeyedrider commented on Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 22:29 PM

What line do I get in?

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 17:24 PM

From your $12/hr claim, I would say the line that most improves your ability to earn more money...
Join the Military, maybe even get some training, if you are still alive when you get out, go to school with Gov. Assistance. That's what I did...

redeyedrider commented on Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 18:12 PM

I am a single full time father of 2. Probably the welfare line. I'll still make about the same amount but I'll have tons of free time.

redeyedrider commented on Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 18:16 PM

I used to actually worry about losing my job. How I would find another one quickly enough. I'm slowly turning the corner to the Democrat way of thinking. The transformation is almost complete. I can just sit at home and be an entrepaneur on the Government dime. I am not even kidding! That's the scary part.

crimeriddendump commented on Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 18:29 PM

Get a job at Costco. They have full medical benefits and wages start at $23.00 an hour.

I would like to know exactly what "government dime" you think you would be geting. I have a real strong feeling your knowledge is equally limited in that topic as well.

LarryBaca commented on Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 22:42 PM

Redryder, I happen to have a hook-up at Costco. Send me your job info to my EM, lwb1942@yahoo.com and I will get it to my hook-up...

LarryBaca commented on Wednesday, Jul 04, 2012 at 19:50 PM

Apparently redryder doesn't really want a good job or he/she is being less than truthful about his/her job situation.. I never got an EM from him/her....

canative62 commented on Sunday, Jul 08, 2012 at 20:48 PM

from
businessinsider.com

Congressman Darrell Issa, the chair of the House Oversight Committee leading the investigation into the Obama administration's "Fast and Furious" gun-walking operation, blasted the Obama administration and Attorney General Eric Holder on Sunday while disspelling any notion of partisanship in the proceedings.

Issa appeared on three Sunday morning talk shows — "Fox News Sunday," NBC's "Meet the Press" and ABC's "This Week" — and most notable was his extensive interview with "This Week" guest host Jake Tapper.

Tapper pointed out that a similar gun-walking operation was started under President George W. Bush. Why not call Bush officials to testify before the House committee to get to the heart of how it started?

Issa said the Obama administration has provided all documents related to gun-walking operations under the Bush administration.

“This is an example where Eric Holder would have you believe it started under Bush and closed up under him,” Issa said. “No, it started under Bush, was closed up under Bush, reopened under President Obama, and, in fact, got to be on steroids.”

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com

canative62 commented on Sunday, Jul 08, 2012 at 20:53 PM

from
washingtonexaminer.com

a memo just released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Iowa senator reveals that Holder also didn't apologize to former Attorney General Michael Mukasey for dragging him into the Fast & Furious scandal that is headed for a major legal clash and likely contempt of Congress charge against Holder.

According to Grassley's memo, Justice said that Holder "inadvertently" made the charge against Mukasey in a hearing.

Here is the full text of the Grassley memo:

To: Reporters and Editors

Re: Second retraction of Fast and Furious Assertions

Da: Wednesday, June 20, 2012

The Justice Department has retracted a second statement made to the Senate Judiciary Committee. During a hearing last week, Attorney General Eric Holder claimed that his predecessor, then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey, had been briefed about gunwalking in Operation Wide Receiver. Now, the Department is retracting that statement and claiming Holder "inadvertently" made that claim to the Committee. The Department's letter failed to apologize to former Attorney General Mukasey for the false accusation. This is the second major retraction the Justice Department has made in the last seven months. In December 2011, the Department retracted its claim that the ATF had not allowed illegally purchased guns to be trafficked to Mexico. Sen. Chuck Grassley's letter and the Department's response can be viewed

canative62 commented on Sunday, Jul 08, 2012 at 20:59 PM

just admit it the left has to make up lies abut anything conservative...

Thursday, June 21, 2012The Emerging Lie about Fast and Furious: George Bush Did It.
As the main$tream media has reluctantly, ever so reluctantly, begun to "discover" the Fast and Furious scandal, we can detect a lie that is growing and growing in the frequency with which it is told and one which Republicans are not swatting down. The lie was just repeated by White House spokesman Carney who asserted that F&F began under the Bush administration and that it was AG Holder who put an end to it.

F&F, however, was not merely a continuation of the Bush administration's "Wide Receiver" Operation. WR used a time-tested law enforcement tactic of "controlled deliveries" of a relatively $mall amount of weapons, $ome 300 or so, to known criminals, followed the guns, and then arrested the culprits. No weapons were allowed across the border; no weapons were "lost."

Holder's F&F was $omething completely different. It was an attempt to "prove" a long-held liberal and media assertion that US gun stores and gun shows supplied most of the weapons to the Mexican drug gangs, and the only way to clamp down on drug-related violence was to enact ever-stricter gun control legislation in the US. One problem: The evidence to support this hypothesis did not exist. The geniuses at DOJ and ATF, therefore, decided to create the evidence. It was evidence planting on a massive scale. The ATF and prosecutors forced legitimate gun store owners to sell weapons, often over the written objections of those owners, to "straw purchasers" who then provided the guns to Mexican criminals. The ATF encouraged thousands of these sales, followed the transport of the weapons, and watched as they crossed into Mexico where all control was lost. We know what happened then: hundreds of Mexicans were killed along with one and possibly two US federal agents (BrianTerry and, possibly, Jaime Zapata).

canative62 commented on Sunday, Jul 08, 2012 at 21:14 PM

Just one more post to show how much your bigotry and hate for conservatives who oppose you is becoming more and more obvious..

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Rob Crowther
Discovery Institute
(206) 292-0401 x.107
rob@discovery.org

AUSTIN, SEPT. 10 — Evolution continues to be a theory in crisis as 60 biologists from across the country step forward and sign onto a growing list of scientists of all disciplines voicing their skepticism over one of the central tenets of Darwin's theory of evolution and urging "careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."

"A growing number of scientists around the world no longer believe that natural selection or chemistry, alone, can explain the origins of life, and while they are still a minority, they are a growing minority," said Bruce Chapman, president of Discovery Institute. "It is an important day in science when biologists are bold enough to challenge one of the leading theories in their profession."

"Darwin's shrillest defenders continue to claim there is no scientific debate and no legitimate scientists who question neo-Darwinian evolution and yet again that claim is shown to be false," said John West, associate director of Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture. "Just last week we highlighted 40 scientists in Texas alone who have joined the national list of scientists skeptical of Darwin."

During recent decades, new scientific evidence from many scientific disciplines such as cosmology, physics, biology, "artificial intelligence" research, and others have caused scientists to begin questioning Darwinism's central tenet of natural selection and studying the evidence supporting it in greater detail.

The full statement signed by the biologists reads: "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged." These biologists are part of a larger group of scientists, over 260, from around the world who have voiced their skepticism of certain parts Darwin's theory.

Prominent biologists who have signed the list include evolutionary biologist and textbook author Stanley Salthe and Giuseppe Sermonti the Editor of Rivista di Biologia / Biology Forum. The list of biologists also includes scientists from Princeton, Cornell, UC Berkeley, UCLA, University of Idaho, Ohio State University, Purdue and University of Washington among others.

canative62 commented on Sunday, Jul 08, 2012 at 21:17 PM

you are in a minority...get used to it...

Twenty percent of the American public believes that socialism is superior to capitalism, says a poll by Rasmussen Reports released on Thursday, April 9.

Asked the question "Which is a better system - capitalism or socialism?", 53% of those polled found capitalism the better system, 20% preferred socialism, and 27% were unsure. The survey did not define either capitalism or socialism, but Rasmussen also cites a December 2008 result saying that 15% of Americans prefer a government-managed economy.

canative62 commented on Sunday, Jul 08, 2012 at 21:19 PM

Yep a minority....

From Wikipedia,

Religion in the United States is characterized by both a wide diversity of religious beliefs and practices and by a high adherence level. According to recent surveys, 83 percent of Americans identify with a religious denomination, 40 percent state that they attend services nearly every week or more, and 58 percent say that they pray at least weekly.[1] A majority of Americans report that religion plays a "very important" role in their lives, a proportion unique among developed nations.[2] Many faiths have flourished in the United States, including both later imports spanning the country's multicultural immigrant heritage, as well as those founded within the country; these have led the United States to become one of the most religiously diverse countries in the world.[3] Doubts about the existence of God are growing rapidly among Americans under 30.[4]

The majority of Americans (76% to 80%) identify themselves as Protestants or Catholics, accounting for 51% and 25% of the population respectively, according to one survey by Trinity College.[5] Other religions including Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, Hindu collectively make up about 5% of the adult population.[5][6][7] Another 15% of the adult population claim no religious affiliation.[5] When asked, about 5.2% said they did not know, or refused to reply.[5] According to the American Religious Identification Survey, religious belief varies considerably by region. The lowest rate is in the West with 59% reporting a belief in God, and the highest rate in the South at 86%.[5

LarryBaca commented on Monday, Jul 09, 2012 at 00:07 AM

cut/paste, cut/paste, cut/paste... anybody read any of that stuff...really?


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