Very good blog about fascism, but do you have any proof that the elections have been rigged?
What about Sen. Reid's election in Nevada, the electronic ballots were already programmed to vote in favor of Reid.
I really don't think fascism has come to America. The problem I have with this list is the characteristics listed are so vague they can be applied to all sorts of countries/parties/movements which can be fascist but doesn't necessarily make them so. Most conservatives aren't fascists imo.
Sometimes you can be frightening... after I read the blog I came to the same conclusion. The examples are vague and could also apply to the 'other party' that is NOT mentioned. I would add that most liberals are certainly not fascists, but you could also make a good case that radical extremists on both sides are.
"Sometimes you can be frightening..."
I don't know if this is good or bad but I'm going to take this as a victory.
As in spooky... we have differing views of politics in general but had almost the same reaction to this post. I sure didn't intend anything derogatory.
Lol I thought you meant sometimes when I post I destroy what people say so thoroughly that it was frightening. Definitely boosted the ego a little bit but I guess not. Now I wish I hadn't said anything at all and instead just bathed in my own frightening glory haha.
Alright you guys, You are starting to make me nervous.
What about the recent bill passed that would allow the govt to lock up US Citizens indefinitely without charges or trial?
Terrifying, especially for us communists considering other communists have been arrested under the Obama administration for supporting movements the government says are terrorist movements. Which of course I find completely absurd considering that one Republican congressmen actually admitted to giving money to the IRA which is a terrorist group according to our government.
But does that make the government fascist, I think not.
I would lend my support to the recently passed bill with the sole exception that it can be amended to allow the govt to lock up communists indefinitely without charges or trial.
Sincerely, Communists Nightmare aka: Friendo
I was reading a book by Marx last night about Louis Bonaparte's coup and there is a line in there that I found to be very true today that I chuckled to myself. Friendo just reminded me of it:
"The period that we have before us comprises the most motley mixture of crying contradictions: constitutionalists who conspire openly against the constitution; revolutionists who are confessedly constitutional..."
“Most people who read "The Communist Manifesto" probably have no idea that it was written by a couple of young men who had never worked a day in their lives, and who nevertheless spoke boldly in the name of "the workers".”
To get back to the discussion topic though I think that fascism is a term that is completely overused by both people on the left and people on the right.
Well it depends on what you mean by "work". Engels was a clerk at a family business in Germany, joined the Prussian Army, and was employed by a mill in Britain before the Manifesto was ever written. Marx was a journalist before the Manifesto was ever written. Maybe you don't consider journalists workers but most people would, I think, consider them workers. Not to mention the books both had written before the Manifesto was made, although I don't know if you consider writing a book work, who knows. Doesn't really make them right or wrong either way imo.
Please read the actual Senate Bill 1867. Contrary to what the radicals say, it does not authorize the unlimited detention of US Citizens. In fact, it specifically exempts US Citizens.
Not according to the published report
Randy is right, there is a whole lot of misunderstanding over this bill, but the bill clearly states it is applicable ONLY to those who are actively engaged in or directly supporting Al-Quida and/or the Taliban post 9/11.
(b) COVERED PERSONS.
—A covered person under this section is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
It also specifically exempts US citizens and resident aliens.
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND
LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.
—(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to
detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
—(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to
detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States,
except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
So, all this baloney about squads of troops roaming the streets taking citizens into custody is just so much radical fear mongering...
I totally agree with Ben Franklin when you apply what he said to present day times in this never ending war on terror, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." The whole affair is Orwellian and straight out of 1984. A never ending war that curbs what freedoms we have in the name of security, one day the enemies are our enemies, the next day they're our friends, and of course the detentions would be entirely political. You had Peter King, a Republican representative, being in favor of the IRA(which is on our list of terrorist groups. He was even part of a organization which is believed to have given money and guns to the IRA). Why did he stop giving support to this terrorist group in 2003? Not because they're classified as a terrorist group! No he stops supporting the IRA because they didn't support the Iraq War! Where is this guys trial, where's all that conservative propaganda saying he pals around with terrorists? There is none!
In fact this guy sits in the House Homeland Security Committee as it's chairman! I really hope he votes against the bill or else he would be the first in jail indefinitely without a trial. Of course that would only be in a sane world, what we have now is a bunch of insanity.
I don't understand you sometimes. You often offer great points and sound logic, but you are so far out on this I can't even track you on radar!
The bill is VERY clear that it applies to post 9/11 activities and specific groups. It does not apply to domestic terrorism, nor the IRA, unless they suddenly declare war on the US and engage in attacks, making them enemy combatants. You read so much, did you read the two sections of the bill? It exempts US citizens.
Where are your sources regarding Rep. King? From my vague memory he voiced support for the IRA's struggle for an independent Ireland. He may well have been part of an organization that supported the IRA financially, but if he'd done anything illegal he sure would have been held accountable - and not chair the Homeland Security Committee.
The whole purpose of the sections of the bill I referenced is to finally provide guidance on dealing with enemy combatants - period.
The Patriot act was suppose to be used for 911 and the war on terror. New reports are that it is used more for domestic uses and not for what it was intended for.
Just like the war on drugs the war on terror will go on forever, while at the same time take more and more of our rights and more tax money away from us to fight this invisible war of ideas.
We are fighting and idea and not a country.
All this because the fearful are to cowardly to admit you are never gonna be safe. ( we all will die one day the only truth we have) You have more of a chance in the US to be hit by lightening than be killed by terror but the fearful are secure in knowing they got big brother watching.
All because some mountain men with orbits accounts and box cutters took down some planes.
Ben Franklin was right those who backed the Patriot Act do not deserve their freedoms you gave them up when you backed the Patriot Act and the war on drugs which has now militarized our police forces.
He stopped supporting the group when public support in Ireland went against the Iraq War, in other words, post 9/11. I know it won't apply to the IRA, only to Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, "associated forces" and people who "substantially support them"(Whatever that actually means). But like I said it's because the War on Terror and all this bs it has brought is entirely political, if it was a true war on actual terrorism Peter King would be arrested for his activity, but we live in an insane world.
All you have to do is go to Wikipedia, they have a whole section on how he supported the IRA. And it wasn't just him voicing support for them lightly like "Oh I think those boys have it figured out, I like them". No he was part of a group that supported them financially and gave them weapons, and visited top IRA officials regularly.
But now he sits as chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and he's doing hearings on the radicalization of Muslims in America. Some Orwellian stuff for sure.
But now if you're a communist and you go to Colombia while you also support FARC or you go to Palestine and are supportive of the PFLP the FBI will be knocking your door down and stealing all of your stuff to prove you helped them out.
Read a great piece by Glenn Greenwald about the bill and Obama's support of it: